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1. Verblose
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   Hey everyone, I just wanted to invite you to our new website, www.avantgarde-metal.com , because I'm pretty sure at least some of you will be interested. As you can see, it is still a growing website. We want it to be an open-minded forum where every experimental metal artist will have a chance to express his thoughts and feelings.

   Regarding this, I had an in-depth conversation with Vicotnik from DHG, and for now, only the first part of the interview is published. The second part will come online in about two weeks or something. There's also an interview with Manes. Loads of new reviews are in the work at the moment. We'll do our best to promote Vendlus albums !

   Please enjoy !

   Olivier

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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2. Joseph
   Bulgarian Bling

   CHN showed me the site, very excited and happy with the way it turned out. It's about time :)

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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3. Maleficio
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   According to this site avantgarde metal bands live in Norway exclusively:)

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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4. twIXta
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   Or it hasn't really changed much the last 10 years. It's as fixed a term as 'progressive rock' which usually sounds like a timewarp to the seventies (not always a bad thing, but that's not what 'progressive' means).

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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5. Verblose
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   Hey Maleficio: lots of bands are of course still missing, we first of all wanted to cover most of the classics. Personally I want to keep going on with 2007 records from all over the world. Its not like avant-gardism is a nationalist term. Its actually everything except that, as you probably know it right.

   Twixta: do you really think that avant-garde metal has been a fixed term for the last 10 years? That's a weird way to look at it. I can understand what you mean with progressive rock, which in my eyes has been way more regressive than progressive ever since the eighties. But avant-gardism is something else and we're trying to discover what it is. Not to fix it in terms nor to thoroughly explain it with our masterful intellect. As I wrote in the forum, when Timothy Leary says that with lsd, "you go out of your mind", I would add that with avant-garde music, "you go out of music as a genre". Still, it would be interesting for me to know how you actually explain the fixed nature of avant-gardism. Isn't that like contradictory? Or is that what you like the most, to make up contradictions wherever and whenever you can? Anyway, give us some time, the website is growing. And please explain further your thinking patterns!

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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6. Verblose
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   Maleficio: I was curious to investigate further - as a matter of fact, on our website, out of 33 reviews, there are 20 of them concerning out-of-Norway bands. Your assumption was therefore not representative of our work, sorry about that. Once again, NO, avant-garde metal is not a nationalist term.

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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7. Chien
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   So many wasted words in defining Avant-Garde. Spare time.
   Just look at wikipedia for a definition quite clear.

   I posted a couple of posts overthere. That could be interesting in the future if that don't turn to a VBE, Smohalla, Arcturus, ... quting contest.
   Ok they're gods and so on ... but that sounds like "Give me a VBE/Arcturus substitute please"
   Don't be offended please.

   Nicolas

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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8. twIXta
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   To me 'avant garde metal' doesn't apply to for instance Arcturus, who, if you look close simply play seventies prog (ELP, Schulze etc.) mixed with neo-classical (sometimes mildly black) metal. Not very 'avant garde' in the true sense of the word. Then you have this mix of black metal with industrial that is considered avant garde, but that style has been well established for quite some years. Also interesting: digital, long considered quite futuristic, is actually getting more and more (almost) successful in mimicking the 'real world'. So to sound 'digital' is actually a retro thing to do.

   As great as the new DHG and Abigor albums are, they aren't very 'avant garde' imo.

   All music should go 'out of your mind', which is also possible in a very established and traditional idiom. Looking for new ways can easily lead to monstrosities like MoRT.

   That said: it's all tagging and words and says nothing about the quality of the music and pretty useless yet entertaining banter among musicnerds. :)

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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9. Joseph
   Bulgarian Bling

   my simple view on it is music that the norm isn't interested or doesn't understand. This can be prog, tardcore, neo classical, whatever. Avantgarde is just a silly french word used to tag music. As twixta said it's all about the quality of the release on a whole... We would all agree that Dimmu Borgir isn't "avantgarde" in most of our music connoisseurs vocabulary, however to someone who listens to britney spears and smashing pumpkins it is way "weird" or outside the norm. Which makes it i suppose avantgarde... i think it really is just perception and who is perceiving it.

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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10. BRad
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    I agree. IT is all a matter of perspective.

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

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