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Look at black metal now...geez....
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Yes, we all know black metal was always theatrical, raw, and often void of musical talent, so no need to mention that. Believe me, I am a die-hard second generation black metaller and I am willing to acknowledge this: black metal can be completely fucking hilarious, as well as plain shit. Though black metal never "sucked" in my opinion. In fact, I cherish its validity as a personal, dark art form, and I perform it myself (plug: check out my page myspace.com/theeoscuros. sponsored by coca cola classic hehe). What I find laughable is the increasingly ridiculous showmanship and image that the bigger, more influential (and consequently, commercial) acts like Dimmu, Satyricon, and the like have chosen to portray. Mtv-friendly music videos, androgynous, bizzare photographs that make me wonder if I am looking at a band or a bad modeling site (gothic calvin klein, if you will). The artists are free to express themselves in whatever fashion they choose. Yet I wonder if it is by choice, or is it the record label's command, and, do they realize that they look and sound like jackasses?? Their music does not "suck," they obviously have some measure of talent. Yet the whole thing seems so contrived, almost forced. I can't help but cringe when I witness these artists who were once considered great, if not the least decent (though I never was a Dimmu fan, did I read through them in the old stormblast days?), fall into some backwashed version of what they could have been. There are still many great bands in the underground (in this humble fan's opinion) that I admire and respect, yet even Darkthrone, who once defined the genre, seem to have even given up on themselves, or they at least sound like they did. I just hope I don't fall into this new (black nu-metal?) formula: recording a music video on the same sound stage, using the same backdrop as Michael Jackson did when he was doing a Pepsi commercial in the 80s, while lip-syncing, head banging, and dancing around to my own best hit single off my latest "black metal" record. If I do, someone please shoot me.
Posted 2 years ago #
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langoustator
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langoustator Escribió:
Is that a troll?
/me jumps in
Who cares as long as there's some good stuff?
No. that's a self portrait
I don't think there is much good stuff.
Posted 2 years ago #
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I have seen opinions similar to what you have written many times before. Apparently black metal is dead because it is not the same as it was 10 years ago. I believe that things need to evolve in order not to stagnate. I love Transilvanian Hunger, to use Darkthrone as an example, but I am glad they did not make T.H. part 2, 3, 4 and so on. Those would have been boring compared to great albums like Ravishing Grimness, Sardonic Wrath and The Cult Is Alive, for obvious reasons. I like old as well as new black metal and neither is better than the other, they are just different. The newest albums from Arcturus, Enslaved, Mayhem and Satyricon, to name a few, are as good as the old ones. I also see no reason why they should not spend more money making videos, if they have the means and that is what they want. I particuarly like the last 2 videos from Enslaved.
The black metal scene as a whole consists of those who perform it, and they are all free to do with it whatever they want. I am tired of those people, especially from the oldest bands, who talk about what it should and should not be. They may have had a hand in creating it, but it does not belong to them and it is obviously beyond their control. If they do not like they the game, it might be better for them to stop playing it, or at least concentrate on making sure that they are doing what they think is right, and being a little less concerned about what everybody else is doing.
-Echon
Posted 2 years ago #
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Ok, I have question... what if Transilvanian Hunger was done NOT by Darkthrone but let's say by some Italian or Singapore band? I am 1000000% sure it will be labeled as the crap of the year! This album is KVLT only because it's Darktrone and they are part of the norsk over hyped black metal scene.
Posted 2 years ago #
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As far as I am concerned, good music has got nothing to do with genres or 'kult' artists. I would listen to Transilvanian Hunger no matter who released it. While I am a huge Darkthrone fan in general, I do not think Under A Funeral Moon or Total Death are as good as the rest of their material, for instance.
I do think you are right, though, that a lot of people would think of Transilvanian Hunger as shit if it had not been released by Darkthrone, or any other Nowegian black metal band.
-Echon
Posted 2 years ago #
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Lupus
Member I like Transilvanian Hunger alot but dont like the new breed of lofi black metal artists trying to sound like an era in a form of music they werent even a part of.
Posted 2 years ago #
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Tom Ass
Member D.B. Cooper Escribió:
I like Transilvanian Hunger alot but dont like the new breed of lofi black metal artists trying to sound like an era in a form of music they werent even a part of.
There are a handful of lofi bands that can pull it off. But on the other hand you're right. There definitely is too many bands who are trying too hard, and just don't "get it"
I'm suprised, Darkthrone was mentioned and there is no Brad to be found...?
Posted 2 years ago #
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Maleficio Escribió:
Ok, I have question... what if Transilvanian Hunger was done NOT by Darkthrone but let's say by some Italian or Singapore band? I am 1000000% sure it will be labeled as the crap of the year! This album is KVLT only because it's Darktrone and they are part of the norsk over hyped black metal scene.
If my aunt had balls it'd be my uncle. It's just a nonsensically hypothetical argument. Maybe I wouldn't have put the effort into it if it weren't for the previous albums, but who cares? I can't change the string of events that made me like that album and I don't see the point. I love it as it is now for what it was then and is now.
And the whole black metal is dead thing is nothing new and a bore. I think there's still plenty to enjoy and I don't let a couple of Aquarius enthusiasts stop me. If people think I'm trendy because I share a fav with those people: their bad. It's their lives that they make miserable worrying about the supposed trendiness of some band that noone outside a small circle of internetnerds has ever heard of or will ever hear. It's inversed logic and as silly as discarding something for not being tr00.
Posted 2 years ago #
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